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Re: Major Star

Post by Conwell on Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:25 pm

I noticed something interesting in the trials review in the latest Harnessxpress publication.

It was a day for the free-leggers in Pukekohe, with two heat winners - both by American Ideal - pacing perfectly without hopples and both winning their heats.
One was the Tony Herlihy-trained Seventh Fleet (3g American Ideal), who won his qualifier five seconds under time for stable junior Tony Cameron.
The other was enigmatic mare Ideal Quest (4m American Ideal), who ran her last half in 55.4 in winning a C1 & faster for Ray Green and Zac Butcher. She can be very good on her day and looked a different horse when unfettered by hopples on Saturday, running a very slick 2.35.2 [MR 2.01.8]. “Shes always trains well free-legged at home and given she sometimes races a little bit below par, I thought I’d try it,” said Green.

Looks like Brent and Star may have started a new trend. Smile

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Post by Conwell on Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:42 pm

It looks like Star has officially been withdrawn from the NZ Cup, as this article states that there are only 25 nominations remaining after today's payment deadline.

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Post by ray the beancounter on Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:36 pm

I understand that the next scheduled NZ Cup nomination fee is payable Wed 14th October of $1,500 + GST so I can only assume that with the arrival of Star back in Auckland that he will be withdrawn from the cup noms and that this next fee will not be paid.

The series fees are payable as follows:
Christchurch Casino NZ Trotting Cup - $750,000 - Group 1 (10 November 2015)
Initial nomination fee Wednesday 12 August 3pm NZ time $375
First late nomination fee Wednesday 26 August 3pm NZ time $3,750
First withdrawal fee Wednesday 16 September 3pm NZ time $750
Second withdrawal fee Wednesday 14 October 3pm NZ time $1,500
Final late nomination fee Wednesday 4 November 11am NZ time $18,750
Starting fee $9,375
(All fees are plus GST).
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Re: Major Star

Post by Des Carruthers on Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:38 am

I noticed that Major Star is still included in the latest NZ Cup rankings. Is the trainer still considering that option if there are mass scratchings ? When is he likely to race again? Ideal Belle must be getting close to making a public appearance.

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Post by nealclan on Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:31 pm

Just arrived back from end of month dinner. Rob reported on Star's somewhat disappointing run at Addington. He was notified by Ken Barron
that Star Coughed as he was being loaded on to the float to go home. He was immediately treated.Brett is organising a float to bring him home for future group racing at Auckland. On returning home he will be given a week off and look to race at the end of October.
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Re: Major Star

Post by barryf on Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:00 pm

Later- I see from the newsletter than it is intended for him to race with hopples on. Brent thinks that he may get away better.
I thought he was looking happy without them so" the proof of the pudding will need to be in the eating '' , to quote, or slightly misquote, from an old expression.

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Re: Major Star

Post by ray the beancounter on Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:52 pm

Like you Barry I am mystified by the "FLP-Off" gear notification. I read this that he is no longer notified as free-legged and will thus be wearing hopples. He seemed a much happier horse without the hopples giving him the ability to use his full extended gait without extension restrictions - so why would you experiment by putting them back on again in a significant race like Friday. If it is true then it seems a very odd decision.
As you say - time will tell - but I would personally rather see him running free-legged.
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Re: Major Star

Post by barryf on Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:18 pm

Thanks Conwell.
Am curious re the legend "FLP- Off". Not sure whether that means  running as free legged or not?

In the case of blinds, "Off" would indicate not running with blinds. Time will tell no doubt.

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Re: Major Star

Post by Conwell on Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:16 pm

A nice draw of 5 for Star in the New Brighton Cup. Smile

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Re: Major Star

Post by Des Carruthers on Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:08 pm

First run for a month, last at the 900m mark, ran his last 800m in about 55.2 whilst 3 wide, ran up behind the placegetter block, after the line he ran through that group of horses ... a good staying performance. An extra 600m in the cup makes this a promising effort. Running in the first 3 in the Canterbury Classic on October 9th gives automatic entry into the NZ Cup so plenty still to play for. Does anybody have an update on how Brent Mangos viewed the performance from a NZ Cup perspective?

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Re: Major Star

Post by Conwell on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:20 pm

I see that Star has come in to $61 for the Hannon and $51 for the NZ Cup.
Must be all of that loyal syndicate money.  Horse

I must say it doesn't really make sense to me that he's paying more to win the Hannon, a race that he is in the starting line up for, than he is to win the NZ Cup where he is currently not even close to making the field yet.  Fingers Crossed

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Re: Major Star

Post by barryf on Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:01 pm

Ray- I suggest you have a look at Harnessxpress, a copy of which was Emailed to me by the editor, Frank Marrion.
Frank you may remember was a correspondent for the old Harness Weekly but seemed to have disappeared following the change to Harnessed and the On Line weekly.
He has re-emerged  apparently and  I found his articles topical and easy to read. Stu Bailey, Garrick Knight and Mitchell Robertson are among his contributors.
Here is a copy of one page, of special interest to us ATC people.
Besotted back from the wilderness
Forgotten pacer Besotted returned to the public eye on
Saturday when he turned out at the Pukekohe workouts.
The son of American Ideal has not raced since tackling
the New Zealand Messenger in May last year.
A week prior he was victorious in the Group 1 Taylor
Mile, defeating Elios and Adore Me for trainer Ray Green
and driver Simon Lawson.
He missed the entire 2014-15 season with an injured
suspensory - the second of his career.
He finished second to the rejuvenated Major Star on
Saturday in a quiet 3-horse heat.
An hour later, Green reported that driver Zac Butcher
was very happy with the run.
“Zac said he felt good and at this stage he has come
through it well.”
Green, not surprisingly, has no plans for Besotted apart
from trying to get him back to the races.
Major Star, the giant free-legged pacer, was handled
by trainer Brent Mangos and, despite being rank on a
couple of bends, scooted home in 57.1 and 27.5 to win.
Major Star holds a New Zealand Cup nomination
and Mangos confirmed to HarnessXpress that we was
sending the horse south immediately in an effort to boost
his ranking and make the field.
“He leaves Tuesday and will tackle the Hannon
Memorial on the 13th and then the Avon City Ford Cup at
Addington on the 25th.”
Mangos said many people forget how good the horse
is.
“He nearly won the Jewels as a 4yo; he was beaten a
nose by Franco Nelson.”
“But last year he raced awful. He never looked any
good physically either.
“But we changed a few things around and took the
hopples off him and now he is much happier.”

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Re: Major Star

Post by ray the beancounter on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:57 pm

I haven’t as yet received my printed copy of the September edition of the monthly "Harnessed" magazine but I noticed this evening that the online version is available for viewing. I was looking forward to reading an article about a rare event occurring in NZ harness racing over the past month.

You know what I am referring to – the winning of a good quality intermediate grade race at Alexandra Park by a free-legged pacer.

Either the editors have no real interest in harness racing, are blind, were born with only one eye and couldn’t quite see all of the race, or are wearing blinkers.
Not only was there no article on Major Star’s free-legged race win, but even the “At A Glance” section on Alexandra Park’s raceday 14th August made not a mention of Major Star even winning a race nor of the fact that the ATC syndicates quinella’d the race. What a pathetic editorial effort. Bash Head

There is a separate article further through the magazine where Duane Ranger interviewed Rob Carr regarding the new syndicate colours under a piece titled “ATC Unleash New Colours” and there is mention regarding Star’s good effort and fast time as a free-legged pacer.
Therefore if there had not been this separate article in regard to the new syndicate colours then Star’s free-legged effort would not have even made it into print.

I was already considering not renewing my magazine subscription this year after they stopped the weekly online magazine at the end of July (as brief as that publication was). Now my mind is well and truly made up – I will stick to the information and articles available freely online.
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Re: Major Star

Post by nealclan on Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:34 pm

Star at $71 on fixed odds for Hannon on Sunday .

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Re: Major Star

Post by ray the beancounter on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:25 pm

The trottech comments and best selections are out this morning for Star's Oamaru race.
As anticipated he is not in the first four selections in the opinion of the "experts" but he will no doubt be closely watched when they post a comment of "Chasing return to peak form & NZ Cup start. Recent w/out win. Surprise packet."
You garner the thought that they really are not sure about him - it is a maybe yes, maybe no, fence-sitting approach....
I just hope that he is sharp enough to really show them what he is capable of, especially after the two day trip down. I was hopeful that they would have flown him south but I understand that the cost of doing so has risen and he went by truck instead.
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Re: Major Star

Post by Des Carruthers on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:34 pm

The race at Oamaru gives Major Star a great chance to leap up the rankings if you note the ranking notes at the bottom of the page of the latest NZ Cup rankings list (Sept. 8th ). The competitiveness in this seasons lead up Group races is given a higher priority than form in previous seasons so every horse will stand or fall on their current form. Major Star has slipped from 38 to 39 with the performance of Provocative Prince last week and the scratching of Zakspatrol but on Sunday will be measured against horses ranked 1, 13, 14, 16, 22, 23, 31, 33, 34 and 35. A good start, find a forward position with cover, trail up on the back of a good horse in the last 800m and grind home from the trail in 26.5 to finish into the placings ... easy.

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Re: Major Star

Post by ray the beancounter on Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:12 pm

Thanks Des. It is good that the forum is being used, however I have to admit to being a little annoyed that there is not a wider audience. Mind you, saying that, I am aware of a few others who for their own personal reasons have chosen not to register but do regularly read the posts and talk to me about the information posted.
As to travelling to Oamaru, no not I. It is just a stretch too far to get to Oamaru from Auckland with any quick turnaround. Oamaru is closer to Dunedin than it is Christchurch and the cost of a last minute flight from Auckland to Dunedin is ridiculous, with limited frequency on the flights.
I will wait for NZ Cup day to see if he is running and then make a day trip of it. I have done this a couple of times in the past and it has worked out well at a far more reasonable cost.
As to the run on Sunday, it will either make or break Star as a better graded horse. He will be facing a number of open class horses (including arguably one of the best in Australasia) in what will likely be a fast run race. We all saw what happened to Star when he ran a personal best time of 2.37.0 over 2200m in a race December 2014 for the sake of winning placing stakes of $2,000. It flattened him. There is no doubt that he appears to be a mentally stronger horse this preparation so we will have to see how the new improved version of Star handles the pressure.
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Re: Major Star

Post by Des Carruthers on Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:42 pm

Congratulation Ray on the 200th post on this blog site. (This makes 201 ). It has certainly helped me to connect to the syndicates more closely as I have been in the syndicates since ATC 2012 but have not yet met any fellow syndicate members. My Fathers Day present was a 130 km each way trip to the daytime trots at Bunbury where they are going to host the second round of the Interdominion series. The whole series should be very competitive as front runners are greatly favoured at Gloucester Park and there is no sprint lane. Tactics will play a major part as it is a long way to come if you sit back and run a fast last 400 and still finish 7th.
I see that there are 12 nominations (so far) for Major Star's race on Sunday ... a good test ... is anyone going down to watch?

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Re: Major Star

Post by barryf on Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:51 am

Looking at last year's Hannon, where only 7 horses lined up, all three placegetters made the field with another, Franco Ledger, 6th. of 7.
As a standing start it looks an ideal race but he would gather more ranking points by winning it than being defeated. So with Christen Me a likely starter his task would be that much harder.

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Post by Des Carruthers on Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:13 pm

Maybe it is better for Major Star to race against Christen Me and the other highly ranked horses to show that he is up to the NZ Cup class. How else can he get up the rankings? Defeating weaker opposition may not improve his ranking from 38 up to the top dozen or so.

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Re: Major Star

Post by Conwell on Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:07 pm

Yes it looks like Christen Me will now be heading to the Hannon too.  Shocked

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Interestingly though there are no automatic qualifying spots available in the Hannon, so it would be better for us if Christen Me runs in the Hannon and bypasses the New Brighton Cup which is a race where the winner gains automatic entry in the NZ Cup.

However, I guess there's always the possibility that Christen Me may line up in both.

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Re: Major Star

Post by barryf on Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:31 am

Yes- looks like a nice trial, particularly considering the classy opponents that Star encountered.

I read that Christen Me is being aimed at the Hannon Memorial as part of his NZ Cup preparation. That wasn't something I wanted to see!

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Re: Major Star

Post by ray the beancounter on Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:13 pm

Excellent. Thanks for the update, as I have limited chances of getting to workouts on weekends at the moment. I'm helping a relative to renovate a 34 foot launch and spent most of today covered in resin and fibreglass cloth.
The published workout field may have been small but was of good quality with a C8 and an open class horse in the field. Star was only the junior as a C4 but is obviously a very classy C4...... Harness
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Re: Major Star

Post by Conwell on Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:15 pm

Star went around at the workouts at Pukekohe this morning in a 3 horse field over 2500m. He stepped best from the standing start and led all the way, comfortably holding off the other 2 horses to win by about a length and a half. It was a moderately run race with fast closing sectionals.

Brent was pleased by the performance and confirmed plans to travel south to run in the Hannon at Oamaru on Sunday 13th September and the Avon City (New Brighton) Cup at Addington on 25th September in an attempt to move Star up the Cup rankings. (or possibly even steal a qualifying spot)

Brent will be travelling down with Star this week and will be staying with Ken Baron in West Melton.

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Re: Major Star

Post by Conwell on Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:16 pm

Star is ranked 38 of 40 in the opening Cup rankings.

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